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Real Live Dealers at Cherokee

Last edit: livestock66 on Wednesday, 30th May 2012 8:35 am
Last response by Misnomer 4th June 8:17am

Has passed the NC Senate, should pass the House this week or next. Should be up and running by mid summer.

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 stevie responded on Wednesday, 30th May 2012

That's good to hear. Now somebody needs to build another casino there to give Harrah's some competition....

 livestock66 replied on Wednesday, 30th May 2012

Yeah, It looks like the State is going to allow two more Casinos to be built in the area, but I don't know if anyone has plans ready to go and develop. I'd love a reason to get up there for some gamble as I already fish and camp there.

 vespajet replied on Wednesday, 30th May 2012

It may be more Class II stuff (like Bingo) as opposed to the Class III gaming at Harrah's. The tribe may be more likely to support additional bingo facilities (they've had a bingo hall in Cherokee for a number of years prior to Harrah's opening up) or perhaps card rooms.

 vespajet responded on Wednesday, 30th May 2012

With tweaks, Cherokee gambling compact moves to House floor Read more here:

I guess I may finally have to trek up there, especially if they are allowed to have craps (real blackjack will also get me up there as well.). It's a little over a three hour drive from Atlanta for me so a day trip or a quick overnight trip would be doable.

 Chuckmonster replied on Wednesday, 30th May 2012

stevie i accidentally deleted your post while doing spam patrol on the iphone. i sincerely apologize!

 stevie responded on Wednesday, 30th May 2012

No problem Chuck, no apologies neccessary. I'm just thankful for a place to connect with my favorite city and for all you do here. I'll just sum it up in a few words because I can't remember what I posted before-Cherokee sucks because I've never won a dime there in 4 trips-lost almost 2 grand in a total of about 6-8 hours, and, you gotta pay for the booze! I'm going back to Vegas!

 vespajet replied on Wednesday, 30th May 2012

What do you expect, it's a Harrah's.... ;)

When they started to allow alcohol there, it wasn't without a fight, as the Qualla Boundary is dry and the members of tribe had to approve it and it passed 1847 to 1301. If the tribe does build additional casinos within the Qualla Boundary, the tribe would have to approve alcohol sales at those facilities, as the vote was solely for Harrah's.

 BigHoss responded on Thursday, 31st May 2012

Hey, a year or so ago, Mr. Monster let me write a review of the new rooms at Harrah's Cherokee and published it here.

The place is OK and it will definitely be better with live dealers. However, no competition equals tight, tight, tight, and crappy VP. It's a fun afternoon diversion if you're nearby or want to check out the mountains, but not a real option in terms of gambling fun.

 wpsteel66 responded on Thursday, 31st May 2012

Never had a urge to travel to this casino. No real dealers, no craps, and the bad things I hear/read about this place encouraged me to travel elsewhere for my casino fix.

 vespajet replied on Thursday, 31st May 2012

Same here. I've had people ask me if I've gone up there and I tell them that until they put craps tables and real blackjack there, I'm not going to set foot there. Harrah's Cherokee does do quite of bit of advertising in the Atlanta area and I've even seen billboards for it in various Asian languages (Korean, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese)in parts of Atlanta in which there is a sizable Asian population. A lot of the recent improvements made to the property were done to attract more longer term visits from folks in the region as opposed to day trips.

I wonder if the Eastern Band are worried about the possibility of one of the other recognized Cherokee tribes (United Keetoowah Band) opening a casino near Hilton Head, SC, which would definitely siphon some customers away. This could be part of the reason why they're working on this new compact with the State of North Carolina. They also face competition from the Poarch Band Of Creek Indians in Alabama, who have three casinos in that state (Wind Creek near Atmore, about an hour NE of Mobile, Creek Casino Montgomery and Creek Casino Wetumpka [which is a suburb of Montgomery].). Their casinos in the Montgomery area are about a similar distance from Atlanta as Harrah's Cherokee.

 wpsteel66 replied on Thursday, 31st May 2012

You are cruising down I-65 and see nothing but pine trees. Then you see this towering building out in the middle of now where (Wind Creek casino). I stopped in this place once on my way to Biloxi. Nice place, but again does not appeal to me since nothing but bingo slots. Plus talk about nothing else to do because this place is isolated from any other city or venues. So Now I just keep driving by and not delaying my arrival to Biloxi.

I hear Wind Creek has been hurting Philly, MS Indian casino. I find that puzzling because same distance from Birmingham to Philly as to Wind Creek, but much less at Wind Creek.

I stopped by the Wetumpka casino a couple years ago. A small trailer with machines. They built a huge parking garage next to this trailer years ago with than expectation of Harrahs building a big gaming center for them (that is what I have been told by a friend who lives in this city). But nothing has materialized into anything.

 vespajet replied on Friday, 1st June 2012

They've been advertising the hell out of Wind Creek as well as Creek Casino Montgomery on some of the local stations here in Atlanta. Those casinos have really benefited from the state crackdown that resulted in Quincy's 777 at Shorter and a few other bingo slot parlors being closed down (of course there was some Vegas-style corruption involved, as some folks have been indicted for bribing state officials). My grandparents took a few trips to Shorter since it was a little more than a 2 hour drive from their house and they could go there and be back home before dark.

 vespajet responded on Thursday, 31st May 2012

Update, the NC House has initially approved the new gaming compact:

State House gives nod to new Cherokee casinos and Las Vegas-style games

It goes for a final vote next week and may have some additional changes, as the original Senate version allowed 5 additional casinos on tribal lands, the House cut it to 3 and there may be attempts prior to the final vote to change it to no additional casinos.

 Misnomer responded on Monday, 4th June 2012

Live dealers will be an improvement, but what they really need is more keytar!