Venetian/Palazzo Shutters Restaurants
Started by MinVegas on Tuesday, 5th March 2013 10:45 am
In the past 48 hours, we've seen the closure of Valentino (fine italian at the Venetian), and the two Sam DeMarco places in First and Rattlecan (which was barely a few months old.) LVS largely operates as a landlord to restauranteurs rather than creating/operating their own kitchens. Kind of have to wonder what's going on there.
Last response by erzeszut 7th March 9:03am
MinVegas responded on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
Awww, I can't change the topic? I was going to make it "LVS shutters some restaurants" so it's more sensible (and so I don't get sued.)
Chuckmonster replied on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
i fixed it for you.
parchedearth responded on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
First had a terrible location, so it's closing is not a surprise. Rattlecan has a weird vibe and odd menu, but the location was great. This is surprising since it just opened (and likely has a longer lease).
Valentino was a long time venue. I never really cared for the place, but somehow it got good reviews and many people liked it. It has probably the best location in the Venetian.
vespajet responded on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
One of the Vegas "content farms" is reporting that the company behind First Food & Bar and Rattlecan "mutually agreed" to relocate the restaurants somewhere else in Las Vegas. I'm guessing Las Vegas Sands gave them a golden handshake and perhaps even offered to help get them into a new location.
Here's something I got to thinking about. Excalibur has two shuttered restaurant spaces that were formerly occupied by American Burger Works and Lynyrd Skynyrd BBQ & Beer. Perhaps this is where Rattlecan and First Food reopen at.
Skywise responded on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
That's odd... But every time I'm out there I go through the Venetian/Palazzo at least once I had never even seen or heard of those places.
vespajet replied on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
Rattlecan opened up back in November and First Food was just difficult to find (First Food even acknowledged that in their tag line. Hard to find. Easy to love.).
Skywise replied on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
Heck, took me 3 trips to figure out where Bouchon was...
The first two times I was with a hungry group that didn't want to wait and I had just assumed it was in the mall, the maps weren't much help and the guy I asked said it was *in* the Venetian which I assumed (heh) meant off the casino floor. NOPE.
Third time I was by myself and just patiently found my way there. Although I kinda like it that way as it cuts down on the general crowds. (Similar to trying to figure out how to get to the Mandarin Oriental Skybar...)
Blakjackkid responded on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
As long as they don't close the Grand Lux cafes, Bouchon, or Aquaknox.
levans responded on Tuesday, 5th March 2013
I Love Burgers was also damn hard to find. I do not see the purpose of opening Rattlecan then closing it months later but we already knew that Adelson was clueless about some things. If either do move to Excalibur then I would have a reason to go there since I did want to hit Rattlecan on my next trip. Harmon Corridor would also be a good place to move one of them to.
Dorian responded on Wednesday, 6th March 2013
When you expand your brand too quickly the quality of the food and service suffers. Yes, First Food was hard to find but when I did, I walked in to a packed place and had a great meal. Same thing the next three trips. My last visit I had horrific service and the food tasted like they had just reheated it from the night before. The space was nearly empty and sad to see. If you are good people find you. Rattlecan had a fantastic location just off the recently renovated and busy sportsbook. But location does not matter if you the food and service is less then mediocre and you feel like you are dining in a seedy back ally.
Chuckmonster responded on Wednesday, 6th March 2013
Rattlecan is moving to a hip, unique location on the Las Vegas Strip, surrounded by the worlds most luxurious automobiles, a delicately flowing waterfall and work by six of the worlds most acclaimed modern artists..... the Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas' parking garage.
You heard it here first, folks.
erzeszut responded on Thursday, 7th March 2013
First had switched to dinner hours only as of January when I was there for CES. I actually tried to go for lunch, as I had last year, and found it closed.
A shame. Good food, nice beer selection, but the location sucked. On the other hand, the reincarnation of RockHouse, moved from the IPQuad, is supposed to go in right across from it. So that hallway could possibly see some more life. Wonder what Sands will do with the space?