Wynn to "Refurbish" Rooms
Started by ChiCell on Wednesday, 10th March 2010 4:32 pm
Was on Wynn Resort's Q4 2009 earnings call a couple weeks ago and Steve did some talking about the new beach club at Encore which will include a new nightclub. Check out the transcript here: http://seekingalpha.com/article/190774-wynn-resorts-limited-q4-2009-earnings-call-transcript?source=yahoo&page=3
More interesting to me since I have not heard anything about it yet is that Steve plans to have the rooms at Wynn Las Vegas refurbished."We area about refurbish our rooms in Wynn, because they are five years old. It puts more pressure on our competition because our service levels and the targeted attractiveness of our facilities gets more and more infective." Makes me wonder what the refurb could include? I wonder if they will take any elements from Encore rooms over to Wynn rooms? I know last time I was at Encore it made the room at Wynn seem a bit dated.
jsmeeker responded on Wednesday, 10th March 2010
There was some brief talk about this in the latest "The Strip" podcast. Steve Friess has an extensive interview with Wynn head designer Roger Thomas, and the subject is briefly discussed. Prototype room(s) exist in Wynn. No real details given, but it seems like a "refresh". I don't think they will be knocking out walls to make the rooms bigger or anything like that. I think you should expect to find changes to carpeting, wall coverings, drapes, etc. "soft goods". It was also suggested that more durable items (furniture type pieces and what not ) would be retained as much as possible since they are expensive and also because it's "earth friendly". Of course, I would think they might re-finish them as needed (paint, stain, varnish, whatever).
http://www.stevefriess.com/podcast/
Warning: The interview is long. And a lot of it is not at all related to Wynn. But that is where I got my info.
atdleft replied on Thursday, 11th March 2010
Yep, the furniture will probably be refinished and not replaced. And as a couple others said downthread, the TVs will be replaced and perhaps a few new tech toy gizmos will be added. And since Roger Thomas brought up the flooring and window treatments, those will definitely be changing.
Kagehitokiri responded on Wednesday, 10th March 2010
last i looked, regular wynn tower rooms were pulled from online reservations. started at exec instead.
would be cool if they reduced size of wynn tower, considering size of encore tower. crazy i know. and of course more costly than soft upgrade.
i see jsmeeker was posting at the same time. nice to have soft upgrade confirmed, and details.
BrianFey responded on Wednesday, 10th March 2010
As a general rule, when Vegas hotels do a room refub, they change all the carpet, wallcoverings, and furniture out. As Steve stated, they don't change the actual room layout or anything that major. In most cases, they don't change the hard surface in the bathrooms either. So more than likely, they would not touch the natural stone in any of the bathrooms, nor the plumbing fixtures. However, they might change the light fixtures.
I will say, Wynn is more likely than anyone in town to take things a step further than his competition has. Just due to the fact that they have so much cash on hand, and they won't be building anything new for many many years in Las Vegas. So its possible, they would go as far as to replace all the marble in the rooms, and upgrade the technology in the rooms, to something more like Aria has.
One thing I never was terribly crazy about at Wynn was the corridors in the resort side of the hotel, I find the ones at Encore much more appealing. I too am very curious to see the new rooms at Wynn.
MinVegas responded on Wednesday, 10th March 2010
I would expect new fabrics and a control system like Aria. Hopefully the airport channel? That can't be expensive and is hugely useful.
I'd also guess that the bathroom and bedroom TVs will be replaced. The bathroom ones aren't that great and the bedroom ones aren't being manufactured anymore unless they have some connection that I don't know about. They may do some form of the "TV in the Mirror" trick done elsewhere.
Other than that, I'd expect some new bathroom hardware like faucets and the showerheads (fancier controls maybe but doubtful) and maybe retiling the floor and that's it. I can always pray for a new mattress though.
And then I expect room rates to move above Encore and stay there.
atdleft replied on Thursday, 11th March 2010
"And then I expect room rates to move above Encore and stay there."
It depends on how much they change the Wynn rooms. If it's just a "refresh", that's doubtful. If it's a total redo, maybe... Until they redo the Encore suites.
Chuckmonster responded on Thursday, 11th March 2010
Its about time. Steve Wynn has refurbished his face three times in the last 4 years, which pencils out to three times too many.
blackjacker1979 replied on Tuesday, 16th March 2010
Does that make him Joan Rivers to Roger Thomas's Melissa?
ChiCell responded on Thursday, 11th March 2010
It would be sweet if they added a room control system like at Aria, that was my favorite part of the room there.
blackjacker1979 responded on Tuesday, 16th March 2010
If I were to ponder a guess. And this is based on the spread of the Encore/Macau look that seems to be going on in general around the joint, especially with the popularity of Encore's rooms and the Beach Club opening, Wynn D&D will try to keep bring the rooms more in line with the overall feeling of the resort.
Wynn and Encore are two totally different feelings. Wynn is the hotel resort, Encore is the resort hotel. They call the suites in Encore apartments, while Wynn's equivalent are villas. Two different vibes of the same stick.
I'd expect to see the rooms totally stripped down to walls and fixtures. Most likely a more muted version of the Encore color scheme, focus on the browns/chocolate to Encore's red and away from Wynn's desert hues. I wouldn't be suprised to see blacks and silver added to the bathrooms to bring them in line, but different than Encore. The gold brushed fixtures will probably go.
Then again, who knows...I'd say that we're likely to know a lot more once we see what the rooms at Encore Macau look like. The evolution track record is there.